顶顶。。摩版快点测试次世代功放啊。。。

PS3本来画面就是弱点

PS3本来画面就是弱点, 256M的显存已经成为笑柄了, 有专业的论坛给出了PS3, XO跨平台游戏画面对比, PS3完败.

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瞎说有什么意思,ps3播bd或许比不上中高端bd,游戏方面也开始有人来睁着眼睛说瞎话了,自己去比较ps3,360和pc上的鬼泣4.........360正好一个朋友有,我有ps3.....两个游戏对比,ps3的画质要胜出太多,抗锯齿效果,还有帧率方面.............pc上dx9下面,3850的显卡特效优化开启到最大,效果比不上ps3,也略输于360...........
还有忍龙sigema,这个游戏效果也是相当不俗的........还有gt5,那个光源,和车子,汽车做的很真的基本差不多了..........不要人云亦云........你拿张目前2k的显卡跑极品能有这个效果{[ ............
希望拿出些事实依据,不过也是 ps3 和360  鬼泣4截图一发出,360饭抱360那满屏的锯齿还在那里死撑,360那个画面好啊..........我在想那些人不是眼睛瞎了,就是脑子出问题了..............:lol:

[[i] 本帖最后由 sexyvanilla 于 2008-10-4 01:23 AM 编辑 [/i]]

:141 :141 :141
该来的软件也来啦
该降的硬件也快啦


还是等松下的降价再买

单看机器内部三星1200比松下BD10强多了，电源部分、解码部分、电容器件明显松下太差劲了

已涨到三星第二代蓝光播放器★BD-P1200B★
一口价  1750.00 元 {[

用的是什么运放，DAC？

这是IGN的评分, 注意下Graphics的得分. PS3是有点游戏画面超过了XO, 但更多的是不如XO.谁叫它把显存限制在256M.

Need for Speed Carbon

PS3：7.9
8.0 Presentation
Great cutscenes and plenty of visual flair in the menus.
7.0 Graphics
Cars are very nicely detailed, but some of the filters, specifically the blurring, looks poor on the system.
9.0 Sound
Nice soundtrack and fantastic engine effects. Great use of surround sound.
7.5 Gameplay
The same racing engine weve been playing for years. Drifting is reasonable fun, the Canyon races are cool and its nicely accessible.
7.5 Lasting Appeal
Plenty of challenges for the career mode and fairly standard online support.

XO：8.2
8.0 Presentation
More trippy-dippy FMV-treated cutscenes and sadly, more cutscenes filled with geekier FMV actors. A great map system, good GPS, and good progression structure.
8.5 Graphics
EA returns the series to the flashy streets of the city, like in Underground 1 and 2. Great looking cars made better by Autosculpt.
9.0 Sound
Great sound effects nicely split in 5.1 plus the least obnoxious EA TRAX songs ever.
8.0 Gameplay
The muscle cars are the biggest change the series has seen in years. The canyon duels are OK (kinda easy actually). The non-career mode mini-races are startlingly deep.
8.5 Lasting Appeal
Mucho replay value: There is the meaty 12-hour career mode, the four-person co-op mode (split-screen or online), and the eight-person cop races, which are great (if you have a good connection).


Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07

PS3：8.3
8.0 Presentation
Most of the features and content of yesteryear are back. Nice PGA Tour mode, and Game Face is excellent as always.
7.5 Graphics
Players are somewhat cartoony but they look great. Grass and whatnot looks better up close than from afar.
7.0 Sound
Decent commentary and reasonable soundtrack go along with the ping of golf balls. Basic but decent.
8.5 Gameplay
True Aiming is a sweet new change for the series. Tiger hasnt been this fun in a while.
8.0 Lasting Appeal
Like the real sport, you could spend hours perfecting your game.

XO：8.5
8.0 Presentation
Tiger has been completely cleaned up, with a streamlined menu system and great atmosphere. There are only 12 courses, but a robust career mode adds tremendous value. This feels like next-gen golf.
8.5 Graphics
Tiger looks amazing thanks to UCAP. Everyone else looks great, except the alcoholic truck driver you created in Game Face. The courses and scenery are gorgeous, a great walk in the park.
7.0 Sound
Recycled from years passed. A nice ambient soundtrack, but the crowds and commentary from 2004 make the game feel old when it should feel new.
9.0 Gameplay
Finally, course management. True Aiming is such a sweet, simple solution you wonder why EA didnt think of it before. And after hours on the range, youll shoot a 63, just like the old days.
8.0 Lasting Appeal
Daily tournaments online are a great idea and build community on the leaderboards. And thanks to the PGA for creating the FedEx Cup. Winning the title feels like winning the Super Bowl in Madden.


NHL 2K7

PS3：8.6
8.0 Presentation
Fantastic franchise mode, but the menu system needs an update and only four player support is a little disappointing.
7.0 Graphics
The ice and animations look fantastic, but player textures look a little flat.
8.0 Sound
Great sound effects are coupled with an OK soundtrack and very nice commentary.
9.0 Gameplay
Excellent if not perfect controls, great use of the SIXAXIS and just a fantastic play experience. Defense and goalkeeping is a little protective to keep things even, though.
8.0 Lasting Appeal
Awesome franchise mode will keep you hooked, and online is always great fun.

XO：8.9
9.5 Presentation
Other than ugly menus from last year, this game has everything. Skybox, Cinemotion, classic and international teams, mini-games, pond-hockey, deep franchise mode and the best online options in sports.
9.0 Graphics
Superb animations and frame-rate, NHL 2K7 never slows down. The player models look great, especially on their back after a big hit.
7.5 Sound
The cinematic score is a great idea that needs to get louder to pull you in. The commentary is decent if you turn it on. Improved crowd noise could have really juiced up the atmosphere.
8.5 Gameplay
The one-timer is still a bit of an issue, but great AI on offense and defense, spot-on puck physics and a next-gen skating engine make for a great hockey experience.
9.0 Lasting Appeal
The game modes seem endless, and youll spend hours unlocking classic teams. The Franchise mode is improved with rivalries and chemistry. The online options are the best in the business.


Marvel: Ultimate Alliance

PS3：7.9
7.5 Presentation
User-friendly menus and perfectly acceptable load times complement a classic "Save the World" storyline.
6.5 Graphics
The environments look great, but theres still pop-in, moderate framerate hiccups, and a sea of last-gen character models that have been animated in a ho-hum way. 1080p looks better.
6.5 Sound
Occasionally a good voice actor comes out of the wood work, but for the most part, the speech here is pretty bad. The soundtrack is straight out of an action movie.
8.0 Gameplay
A really solid combat system and cool multiplayer features are made better by the use of super powers and fun boss fight mini-games. Now if only half those powers were more useful...
8.0 Lasting Appeal
This 20-30 hour adventure has more than 20 playable characters, plenty of hidden goodies, and online co-op.

XO：8.2
8.0 Presentation
With more than 140 Marvel characters, this is the most robust comic-book game to date. A solid story and cool alternate costumes are welcome additions to the button-mashing fun.
7.5 Graphics
From afar it looks gorgeous, particularly the environments. While things get a little uglier on closer inspection, its hard to deny the shiny splendor of MUA in motion.
7.0 Sound
The voice acting is average and the one-liners far too few for a 20-hour game. The wonderful score saves this from mediocrity.
8.0 Gameplay
Addictive button-mashing mixed with some God of War-style boss battles. The puzzles and level design are tired, but that does little to detract from the joy of cracking Skrulls.
8.0 Lasting Appeal
It should take about 20 hours to play through the first time, but thanks to the depth of customization and number of characters, there is plenty of incentive to give this a second play through.

我也准备买个三星的本本,因为我是三星迷，哈哈！

[quote]原帖由 [i]titianjiang[/i] 于 2008-10-3 21:53 发表 [url=http://bbs.avtime.cn/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1969772&ptid=194295][img]http://bbs.avtime.cn/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
这机器读盘怎样？ [/quote]

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[size=3]简单测试了一下，读盘（识别）能力较好，播放过程中D9换层不是太流畅，目前还不知道该机读D版BD-25如何？其实这个是最主要的。[/size]

[quote]原帖由 [i]kengtiger[/i] 于 2008-10-4 08:49 发表 [url=http://bbs.avtime.cn/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1970112&ptid=194295][img]http://bbs.avtime.cn/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
用的是什么运放，DAC？ [/quote]

[size=3]运放用的是S 4560*4片（5.1声道用3片，模拟两声道专用一片），音频DAC是AKM公司的AK4358（性能比BB公司的好一些。）:loveliness: [/size]

[[i] 本帖最后由 摩机张 于 2008-10-4 10:57 AM 编辑 [/i]]

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从你的贴图看来，松下BD-10的电源确实用料不如三星1200。###gg

机器的面板认证缺少DD-HD、DTS-HD这两个无损压缩音轨

这是否可以通过次世代功放来解码达到效果呢？

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乱评分有什么意思.........一些人说了动听的话就给加分...........觉得妥当嘛..........一切要以事实为依据..........ps3游戏各位玩过多少????根据个人喜欢就给评分,未免不妥吧...........
偶也是ps3的用家,一些人抨击ps3是不是我也该给他评分呢...........难怪上面的贴子里会出现火药味

回复 #104 sexyvanilla 的帖子

:137 :137 :137 你就喜欢日本电动--日本小人---日本AV咧---:135

PS3的游戏画面还是很不错的。

播放BD碟的画面确实不如松下BD-10、三星1200等碟机。

[quote]原帖由 [i]HTLONGCN[/i] 于 2008-10-4 11:43 AM 发表 [url=http://bbs.avtime.cn/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1970288&ptid=194295][img]http://bbs.avtime.cn/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
:137 :137 :137 你就喜欢日本电动--日本小人---日本AV咧---:135 [/quote]
:140 :140 :140 昨天买了张灵魂能力4...........
上几张pp,保证你也喜欢{[

回复 #107 sexyvanilla 的帖子

我喜欢玩的是生与死2--------{[ :loveliness:

贴几张GT5的游戏画面!!!!
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全部都是ps3即时演算的游戏画面:140 :140 :140

回复 #109 sexyvanilla 的帖子

好漂亮啊----:136 好享受啊-------:136

感觉现在够进蓝光机还是早了点，上到第三代再买吧，碟机跟攻防不一样

[quote]原帖由 [i]sexyvanilla[/i] 于 2008-10-4 01:05 AM 发表 [url=http://www.av199.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1969984&ptid=194295][img]http://www.av199.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
瞎说有什么意思,ps3播bd或许比不上中高端bd,游戏方面也开始有人来睁着眼睛说瞎话了,自己去比较ps3,360和pc上的鬼泣4.........360正好一个朋友有,我有ps3.....两个游戏对比,ps3的画质要胜出太多,抗锯齿效果,还有 ... [/quote]


鬼泣的D9和D10，有区别吗？我是从来没看出来过，另外，3850已经老了，现在玩游戏至少4850级别的，4850跑dmc4，基本属于想怎么开特效就怎么开的，pc版本a卡可以开到8x反锯齿，n卡可以开到16倍，ps3肯定比不过。

说到目前最强的游戏画面，应该还是pc，ps3和360为什么没有crysis？原因很简单，因为这两个机器都跑不动这个游戏，只有强劲的pc才可以。

[quote]原帖由 [i]fevertao[/i] 于 2008-10-4 02:29 PM 发表 [url=http://bbs.avtime.cn/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1970464&ptid=194295][img]http://bbs.avtime.cn/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]



鬼泣的D9和D10，有区别吗？我是从来没看出来过，另外，3850已经老了，现在玩游戏至少4850级别的，4850跑dmc4，基本属于想怎么开特效就怎么开的，pc版本a卡可以开到8x反锯齿，n卡可以开到16倍，ps3肯定比不 ... [/quote]
连dx9和dx10都没看出区别,只能怪你的硬件太好了,赞你一个.........瞎说就免了...........朋友家里是3870的显卡,dx9和dx10的效果我想正常人都能看得见区别.......{[
ps:你比较过ps3和360还有pc上的效果区别吗????碰巧ps3,360 pc上偶都比较过,pc上(在我的3850和朋友3870,dx9 dx10)..........网上看一片枪枪评测就来噼噼啪啪乱说一通的能免则免吧..........

[quote]原帖由 [i]sexyvanilla[/i] 于 2008-10-4 03:52 PM 发表 [url=http://www.av199.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1970538&ptid=194295][img]http://www.av199.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

连dx9和dx10都没看出区别,只能怪你的硬件太好了,赞你一个.........瞎说就免了...........朋友家里是3870的显卡,dx9和dx10的效果我想正常人都能看得见区别.......{[
ps:你比较过ps3和360还有pc上的效果区别吗 ... [/quote]

呵呵，就鬼泣而言，我用4850在vista下经常会玩这个，d9和d10模式，都进去过，区别如果说有，那也是大家来找碴级别的，游戏里基本没什么区别，你别以为ps3或者是360的鬼泣就是d10效果，这两台机器，一个用的是ati的1950，一个是geforce 7800gtx，都是只支持到d9的显卡，当时d10在哪里都不知道，你以为你在ps3上看到的就是d10效果了？

对了，你既然有条件比较pc、ps3和360鬼泣4的效果，不如贴几张图出来，给大家来玩玩找茬。

[[i] 本帖最后由 fevertao 于 2008-10-4 07:54 PM 编辑 [/i]]

[quote]原帖由 [i]fevertao[/i] 于 2008-10-4 07:35 PM 发表 [url=http://bbs.avtime.cn/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1970717&ptid=194295][img]http://bbs.avtime.cn/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


呵呵，就鬼泣而言，我用4850在vista下经常会玩这个，d9和d10模式，都进去过，区别如果说有，那也是大家来找碴级别的，游戏里基本没什么区别，你别以为ps3或者是360的鬼泣就是d10效果，这两台机器，一个用的 ... [/quote]
{[ {[ {[
看来你是什么都不懂啊...........既然ps3是7800基本的gpu,为什么gt5的效果能这么好,给你看看4850跑极品飞车专业赛道的游戏画面

[img]http://www.hwit.net/d/file/diy/videocard/2008-06-23/6ef56cf97e66719b3ec00a5bf3e28573.jpg[/img]

ps3 gt5:140 :140 :140 与真车对比!!!!

[img]http://www.8080.net/pics/20083/319941400.jpg[/img]



游戏画面

[img]http://itech.online.sh.cn/images/2007-12/12/xin_57120412093688729351.jpg[/img]

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自己和ps3的gt5比一下..........差距不是一点............天文数字多有用吗??????最直观的看效果啊....
是不是开始天旋地转了,摸不清头脑了???想不同ps3为啥效果这么好了??
碰巧偶在玩pc版的时候截了两张dx9下,3850显卡跑的游戏图片,也给你瞧瞧吧.........你拿天文数字来忽悠我,没关系,偶给你看直观图
[img]http://bbs.avtime.cn/attachments/month_0810/20081004_5a6ae5ef514ae239f2c1rDz30aLv4dWA.jpg[/img]

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看见了木有???pc版dx9下面的锯齿了没???背景建模也是比较粗糙的...........
ps3个人没办法截图...........找了张网上ps3版的截图..........[img]http://img.games.tom.com/images/2006/tvgame/0915/05/10.jpg[/img]


[img]http://img1.qq.com/gamezone/pics/3972/3972843.jpg[/img]

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[img]http://img.games.tom.com/images/2006/tvgame/0915/05/05.jpg[/img]
有兴趣的可以下ps3版的hd版预告也一样,cg是ps3全程即时演算的........



实际光源效果,全屏抗锯齿ps3要好太多了.............:140" />" /> :140" />" /> :140" />" />

[[i] 本帖最后由 sexyvanilla 于 2008-10-4 08:43 PM 编辑 [/i]]

1.ps3用的是geforce 7800gpu，这个是不争的事实，说什么都无法改变的，7800的性能到底有多少，这个也早有定论。

2.gt5和nfs11不是同一个游戏，根本没有可比性，即使要比，也请把反锯齿开到4x以上，材质过滤开到8x以上再来比较，拿一张1024*768不带任何反锯齿效果的图来比，有意思么？

3.说到鬼泣，刚才我也去截了一个图，这次我用1280*720的分辨率，就不用1920*1080的来欺负你的ps3了，似乎并没有你图中的那些个锯齿嘛，呵呵。你是不是忘记开反锯齿了，还是开了反锯齿再跑就变成看ppt了？

4.看了你的图，我发现一个很有趣的现象，但凡pc的截图，都是未经缩小的大图，游戏机的图都是经过处理缩小了的图，根本不是原图，开个玩笑，如果把nfs11的这张图缩到你gt5的大小，恐怕锯齿也不那么明显了。

5.就这么点东西就想把我弄晕，还差远了。

[[i] 本帖最后由 fevertao 于 2008-10-4 09:25 PM 编辑 [/i]]

这个就是你的4850所谓的效果????我怕你看过ps3鬼泣4的实际效果,连电脑都砸了..............{[
偶的目的并不是让人晕,而是了解一下什么是事实........人物的多边形差距难道还看不出嘛....还是酸葡萄心里???看到你的截图我都要笑了.......前面把4850说得那么神奇,DX10下就这个效果..........在朋友dx10 3870得表现可是要比你这好不少...........你就把这拿出来现眼????
效果好你说是图缩小得原因....gt5效果好,你说不具可比性,.......要不这样吧,把你的4850带来偶家吧,我们当场和ps3 pk........怎么样?
ps:推荐你把你认为很棒的截图发到专业游戏网站上去让大家一起来评评,av9部落,cngba ect....我怕是竖着进去,用塑料袋包着出来了:lol:
你所谓好的效果偶看过了,到此吧,偶觉得没有再讨论的必要了........浪费偶这么多的精力

回复 #117 sexyvanilla 的帖子

色斑是超级游戏迷啊！就一个GT5已经玩的我晕头转向了，其他的游戏没敢入手

呵呵，ps3不过区区2000多块的东西，粗算了下，今年我光用在显卡上的钱，就已经超过一个ps3的价钱了，有酸葡萄的必要？？

前面你提到3870在d10下的效果都要比这个好，我看了真不知道说什么好，如果真是这样，AMD和微软应该直接下岗了--amd只要卖他的3870就ok了，不需要再搞什么4850、4870等等，至于微软，D10本来就是一个标准，如果同一厂家的显卡跑出来画质都会不同，那要这个标准作甚？？不知道是谁酸葡萄，呵呵。

另外，我刚才已经说过，我是为了公平起见，所以只是用1280*720的分辨率跑的，如果是换成1920*1080甚至更高一些的分辨率的话，估计你的神器PS3只有看ppt的份了，呵呵。

我只是想说明一个事实，就是在当今pc硬件下，三年前的ps3和360已经渐渐没有了机能优势，这也是为什么目前硬件要求最高的crysis系列一直无法再ps3和360上推出的原因，因为实在是跑不动，这个是crytek的技术人员说的，不是我说的。游戏机和pc相比，确实有优势，但最大的优势不在于性能，而是相对的便捷与游戏的数量。在新游戏推出的速度和一些独占平台游戏上，pc是比不上的。所以对于爱好游戏的人来说，买一个游戏机，还是有必要的。

最后，你觉得是浪费精力了，我又何尝觉得不是，就这样吧，你继续用你的神器，我用我的4850。

[[i] 本帖最后由 fevertao 于 2008-10-4 10:52 PM 编辑 [/i]]

期待摩兄能详细测评性能，特别是音频方面的，比如音色取向、能不能支持DVD-AUDIO的24BIT/192KHZ的PCM，对次世代音频的支持等等，这些因素才是学生们所想知道的。